Success Stories

Rookie of the Century

“October 2001 was my first full month as a financial advisor. To my surprise, I made $12,500 in GDC. In 2002, the worst year since the great depression, I made $290,000. I know this is a tremendous blessing for me, but I'm planning for an even better future."

                                         
    — Kevin A., Oahu, Hawaii

Kevin launched his career as a financial advisor in September 2001. At first, his timing seemed unfortunate.

"I was watching the 9/11 terrorist attacks on television and my heart went out to the victims' families and our nation," he told me. "As I saw all of this, I wondered if my career change was a smart idea."

However, it turned out Kevin was in the right place at the right time. With his focus on serving clients, he was able to help people through a confusing financial and personal time. And he built an impressive client base from scratch. His financial results are a testament to his success. But Kevin measures his career in a different way: he wants to help others and leave a positive impact on the world.

Kevin's success offers lessons that can help other financial advisors transform their business from "good" to "great." Here is Kevin's story.

FROM JUDO TO FINANCES

Kevin's journey to financial advice followed a winding path. An athlete at heart, Kevin competed in the 1988 Olympics and won a Silver Medal for judo. Then after working a few years at an electrical contracting company, he decided to become a pastor.

For eight years, Kevin served a congregation at a Christian church on the Hawaiian island of Oahu. Though the work was fulfilling, he felt a tug toward financial services. With his degree in accounting, his passion for helping others and his athletic desire for a challenge, Kevin was slowly realizing that financial services was the next step in his career.

The problem: He had no savings, so a career change would be difficult. On top of that, he did not want to be a "sales person."

"I looked at all the different angles," Kevin told me. "One of the things that sold me on the career transition was when my friend (and future manager) Herb told me about this outstanding marketing system he used. He was referring to the Effort-Less Marketing Research Interview process."

When Herb offered to hire Kevin and provide him with a small base salary to help with the transition, Kevin jumped at the opportunity.

FIRST STEP: RESEARCH INTERVIEWS

To get started, Kevin made a list of roughly 300 people he knew, and then divided them into A, B, and C prospects. He set out to conduct research interviews with approximately 40 of the A prospects. During these interviews, he asked his friends and associates for help and advice on his new career.

Kevin understood that the Effort-Less Marketing process is centered on helping people clarify what they want, not trying to force them into buying something. Because he was trained in counseling and advising people, he approached the meetings as an opportunity to help others.

This approach is very different from a typical sales process. When you try to "sell" people, they tend to resist. However, when you try to help them, they work with you. That's why we call it Effort-Less Marketing.

"The thing I like most about the research interview process is that you are finding out what people's needs and wants are, instead of just telling them what you have to offer," Kevin said. "The research interview is a relationship-oriented way to get people talking about their finances instead of just coming right out and asking them for the information."

Kevin told me he was initially concerned that some people would question his competence and wonder, "Why should I trust you to provide financial advice and help me manage my money?" However, that question never came up. Instead, people were interested in his career change. They would say, "Being a financial advisor and being a pastor are quite different aren't they?"

His response was, "No, it's pretty much the same thing. The difference is that as a pastor, you're only dealing with spiritual matters. As a financial advisor, you're dealing with financial counseling, but you are also getting to the heart of the matter - what people truly want in their lives. You're just reaching that point through a different route."

Kevin said that for him, the motivation behind both careers is the same. "I'm here to help people," he said. "And what I found quite interesting is that in my role as a financial advisor I often learn more about someone's personal situation than I did when I was a pastor."

Said Kevin, "Since I didn't know anything about the industry, I did the research interviews to gather 'soft' data. I asked people what was important to them and what they wanted in their lives."

Typically, at the end of the interview Kevin says something like, "We covered a lot of ground here today. Would it make sense for us to get back together and discuss specific ways we might be able to help you in some of the things we've talked about." Because he approached the matter as a counselor and not a salesperson, a large number of people accepted Kevin's offer.

ESTABLISHING A PROCESS

Kevin told me, "At first, after 9/11, I thought it would a terrible time to get into the industry, but with the market going down, many advisors aren't calling their clients, and people have a lot of questions and concerns. It is not unusual for them to say, 'I don't know what to do with this money,' or 'I have questions about this policy.'"

To help his prospective clients navigate their concerns, Kevin established a straightforward process for providing service.

First, he gathered the "soft" data during a research interview. He specifically listened for ways he could help his potential clients. If he saw an opportunity, Kevin would then bring Herb or another experienced advisor into the picture to help design solutions for the prospective client.

As Kevin became more comfortable with the industry, he started gathering soft data and hard data during the research interviews. He now brings this information back to Herb or Dan and works with them to define a set of solutions. Then they visit the prospective client together.

The key for Kevin is to avoid talking about products or solutions at first. Instead, he focuses on each prospective client's concerns, interests, and needs. Only after he understands a person's situation does he begin to think about the services that could help them. Through it all, Kevin enjoys trying to find the right solution for each specific situation.

"I like the challenge of the financial service industry," he said. "Every day, it's like going to an athletic tournament. You have to remain focused and motivated."

STRONG FINANCIAL PICTURE

Kevin's approach to financial advice is clearly making an impact. In his first full month in the industry, Kevin made over $12,500 in gross dealer concession. Last year - his first full year in the industry - Kevin earned $290,000 in gross dealer concession. Not a bad start, considering 2002 was the worst year in the financial markets since the great depression.

I asked Kevin what he thought about his spectacular success. He answered, "I'm kind of overwhelmed with the success. I was very, very surprised. But being an athlete, I found that when you win a championship you think, 'O.K., next time I've got to try even harder.' I know this is a tremendous blessing for me, but at the same time I'm planning for an even better future."

Kevin's goal, however, is not the money. As he explained, "I've always wanted to have a major impact. My goal is not to be rich or have a lot of material goods, but to make a large, positive influence on the world. In fact, eventually, I'd like to work internationally and help people in other countries."

Indeed, Kevin's manager Herb has attracted a group of top-notch advisors who truly care about their clients. Case in point: one of Herb's goals is to give away 90 percent of his income.

From my perspective, this outlook is a much more powerful place to come from rather than just "wanting to make a lot of money." Ironically, it seems those advisors who really want to help their clients end up making a lot more money than those advisors who are simply in it for the money.

ADVICE FOR READERS

Kevin shared several words of wisdom for readers.

"One reason I'm successful is because of what I learned as a pastor," he said. "I realize that this business is not just about finances and investments, but about relating to people and being able to listen. And when they open up to you, they feel comfortable with you, and then they feel they can trust you with their money. That's what makes this business effortless."

Kevin also learned that relationships are critical. During his research interviews, as he talked to people he had known for years, he discovered things that he'd never known about them. This allowed him to take the relationship to a new level.

He also benefited from mentors who helped him early on. "I have three advisors that I call my success coaches," he told me. "I asked if they would be willing to come along and help me become successful. They've been very instrumental in my career."

Teamwork is equally important, he said. Kevin's manager and fellow team members were always there to accompany him on meetings and help him strategize solutions for prospective clients. They worked hard at making him successful. At his office, it is truly a give/give situation.

In closing, Kevin shared his thoughts about the industry. "I think the business is really about personal development, integrity and honesty," he said. "It is having the right values and wanting to truly help people instead of just make money. This is how I will have a positive impact, leave a legacy, and improve people's lives. The way I see it, I am using my career to impact others in a positive way - and if that is your focus, the money will come."

Kevin is the epitome of an Effort-Less Advisor. He truly is an un-salesperson. I nominate him for the Rookie of the Century-the role model for financial advisors for the new millennium.

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